"Why I (A Black Man) Can't Vote For Obama"

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Huntley Brown - is a fabulous concert pianist, a man of God and is a black man.  Here is his reasoning for not voting for Obama. My brother-in-law asked me to post this and I thought you might like it.

Why I Can’t Vote For Obama

A  few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it’s worth repeating..

First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why  I will not be voting for him.

Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness.

I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can’t dictate the terms He does because  He is the leader. I can’t vote black because I am black, I have to vote Christian because that’s who I am. Christian first, black second.  Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won’t be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.

In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning, to name a few, wrong, economic concerns will soon not matter.

We need to follow Martin Luther King’s words, “Don’t judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” I don’t know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record.

His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007. NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as t he most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.

There is a reason planned parenthood gives him a 100 % rating.
There is a reason the homosexual community supports him.
There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him.
There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court.
There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill.
There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.
There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion.
There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.

Lets take a look at the practice he wanted to continue.

The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedure

1. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
2. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
3. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.
4. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
5. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.God help him.

There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law. Think about this: you can’t give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.

There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright’s sermons. I wonder why now? Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 – 20 ‘Go and make disciples of all nations.’ This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you, talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a:

1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

Would you support a President who went to a church like that?

Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama’s former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside. This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church.  The church can’t be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.

A church can’t have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if its a white church or a black church it’s still wrong.  Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.

Obama’s former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: ‘Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. Cone is the man Obama’s mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?

So what does all this mean for the nation?

In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing – judgment.

Read 1 Samuel 8  when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 ‘Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.’

Then God says: 1 Samuel 1:18 ‘ When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.’ 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. ‘No!’ they said. ‘We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.’  21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, ‘Listen to them and give them a king.’

Here is what we know for sure.

God is not schizophrenic

He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.

Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.

For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four supreme court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.

I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama’s positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.

Since we know someone’s value system has to be placed on the nation,

1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.

2.  Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?

Blessings,
Huntley Brown

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146 Responses to “"Why I (A Black Man) Can't Vote For Obama"”

  1. I am touched by this story…….

    A mother and father send a son to live with family in another city to get their heads on straight,,,
    Then they learn their son has a child on the the way….
    They decide to bring the son back home…..
    And they learn he has a woman pregnate near their home….Where does it end?

  2. Dear Sir, May I have permission to post this in our newspaper? People need to see this, and some Christians need to read this, too. God help us on this election, Please advise me whether I can post it in the paper, soon,, tyvm.. Mrs Robert(Mary) Glass

  3. Please read this. You should know this before voting.

  4. [...] http://www.faithandfacts.com/2008/09/23/why-i-a-black-man-cant-vote-for-obama/ By Huntley Brown Dear Friends,  A  few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it’s worth repeating.. [...]

  5. A lot of this article can be refuted with solid evidence to the contrary. You should really check on your facts before spilling out generalities about Obama that aren’t true.

    Obama is not FOR Abortion…he is for the RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

    Obama is not FOR Gay Marriage…he is for the right for civil unions to exist with equal rights to same sex partners.

    Obama will vote liberal judges to the bench because we need to keep the power the same. Conservatives already have the majority in the Supreme Court and Obama can’t change that.

    You do a disservice to the black community by stating things the “white churches” don’t do. They are in the majority so they don’t have to list that they are helping the “white community.” It’s assumed they already are saying that. Helping the black community strive to be equal is not a bad thing. Don’t make it out to be.

    Obama is not for handouts to the black community once he becomes President. In fact, he is even harder on the black community because he knows they can do better. He doesn’t want their hands out, he wants their heads properly in the game of life.

    Obama is not a radical because of Rev. Wright. TO say he is is ignorant and doesn’t speak of the facts. Every preacher has said something they regret (ask Sarah Palin) or is against the establishment. People’s lives are not shaped by a preacher’s teachings alone. They are shaped by experience, hard work and dedication to make yourself better. Obama brings this out in all folks.

    So before all of you accept this article’s kool-aid as fact…do some research on your own and you will find there was a GOOD reason for everything the author brings up. He just doesn’t want to admit that.

    Obama/Biden ’08!

  6. The last comment made by Redwing is one from a person who wants Obama/Biden to win. He is saying the Obama is not for abortion, but will vote for the “right to choose”… well, by voting that way, he certainly isn’t AGAINST abortion! Redwing needs to re-read what he wrote… we don’t need a balance with liberalism and conservatism. Conservatism is Christianity – oh, by the way… our country was founded by the people who wanted Christianity to exist. Christ’s way is the ONLY way – no matter how the people who don’t want it to be that way try to change it! Regardless of what “they want”… there will be a day of judgment coming and God will deal with those who refuse to do God’s will and take Him at His Word! God bless you, Mr. Brown. Thank-you for this information. If you were running for president, you would have our vote!

    McCain/Palin 2008

  7. Ommie,

    America was NOT founded with solely Christianity in mind. Most of America’s founders were Deists, which has radically different beliefs concerning God, sin, and heaven.

    We are to place our hope in Christ, not a president. We are the United States of America, not Israel.

  8. I believe with my entire mind, body and soul that God has given us a choice in this election. When it seemed as though no one was truly understanding the choice, He sent Sarah Palin to help. With her moral fortitude of example, walking the walk as well as talking the talk, we see before us a choice for those who choose life as the highest priority, versus those who chose convenience, legal-ease and political power.

    Now there is no question in my mind. This election is a choice between life and death, salvation and damnation.

    I pray there are enough of us that choose wisely.

    God Bless you for this post and those thoughts. You are brave, indeed.

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  10. As a white male christian from New England, i was touched deeply by Mr. Browns comments. thank god for him, and his wisdom. I fear, that people have lost their moral compass..in fact, there is a “white guilt” that may cause folks to vote for obama, regradless of the countless reasons why not to…everywhere we turn, obama has his hand (or did…ACORN i.e.) at some place….he is corrupt, disingenous, and his wife Michelle is such a racist, it makes Rev. Wright seem sweet….we need to forward Mr. browns letter to EVERYONE, and NOW!!! I just heard Obama is planning on buying 1/2 hour national tv time a few days before the election…HUBRIS 1000% fold!!

    god help us all…

  11. Thank you Mr. Brown, I was touched by your letter.

    This exact issue, exactly what is Obamas faith, needs to be brought out into the open because it defines the principals of the man who is running for PTOUS. The media will not discuss it, and the McCain team will not touch it. I fear for the future of our Nation.

  12. I find this article repulsive and totally untrue. Gos is raising up a Leader is breaking down the walls and bariers of racism…Obama is bringing people together to work together regardless of race…When 911 happened people from all races were huging one another as they grieved the loss of the loved ones & race did not matter at all…Obama is trying to recapture that concept with his message of change…We are different from each other on the outside but on the inside we all have the same color blood & will bleed the same…For the first time in our History has one man been able to come this far & people don’t see race as the issue, they see Change, Equality, and Growth. God could not have picked a better democratic candidate for the mission! Nothing transpires wi thout his God’s approval…As in Mark 10:27…A miracle has already taken place….Senator Obama you go in Jesus name! God is with you!!!

  13. I find the above article about Senator Obama repulsive and totally untrue. God is raising us up a Leader who is breaking down the walls and barriers of racism…Obama is bringing people together to work together regardless of race…When 911 happened, people from all races were hugging one another as they grieved the loss of their loved ones & race did not matter at all…Obama is trying to recapture that concept with his message of Change…We are different from each other on the outside but on the inside we all have the same color blood & will bleed the same…We all belong to God…All things were made for him and by him, (God)…For the first time in our History has one man been able to come this far & people don’t see race as the issue, they see Change, Equality, and Growth. God could not have picked a better democratic candidate for the mission! Nothing transpires without his God’s approval…As in Mark 10:27…A miracle has already taken place….Senator Obama I say you go in Jesus name! God is with you!!!

  14. I think Mr, Brown’s point is that he has looked at some specific positions, attitudes and policies of Barack Obama and decided not to buy the t-shirt.

    How is that repulsive? BTW Rhonda, what do you find untrue?

    Breaking down barriers of racism is indeed a noble goal. However, Mr. Obama also wants to break down every barrier to abortion to make it easier to obtain and more prevalent. I am in favor of reducing racism and opposed to increasing abortion.

  15. God loves change and welcomes it. 2 Corithians 3:18. You can look around at the universe and each other to see our God loves change. He even wants us to change our attitude in how we speak about one another. He is a God of love. It’s not that I am so, crazy about Obama. For me; it’s just that I don’t want no more of the Bush Administration or anyone like him for the next 4 years….I trust in God & he has his hands on this thing with Obama. 2 Corinthians 4th chapter. Lord knows we have had 8 years of a Dead President who refuses to see or to hear the instructions or our father! Obama message of Change is very much reflected in the entire chapter of 2 Corinthians 4th chapter. Be Blessed. Trust in God.

  16. I put up this post at the request of my brother-in-law and agree with most of the material. However, Christians in both parties should be careful what they proclaim as the hand or the will of God.

  17. Have you forgotten about 911? A self-inflicted war that did not have to happen? Many were killed…Stock market crashing! Loans are frozen! Foreclosures at an all time high! While Walstreet receives a 700 Billion dollar buyout budget while Corporate Admin enjoy thousands of dollars soon after the buyout by treating themselves at a spa….Soldiers are continually coming home in body bags or caskets & honored with medals after they are dead! Familes all across America are grieving the loss of their loved ones! Billions of Funds Washington is spending to keep the war going!!American jobs being shipped overseas!!Small business closing!!Billions of American dollars being spent on Foreign Oil!! Educational funds are being jeopardized!!!We are in a current Recession NOW!!!Non-affordable heathcare to working class Americans…Veterans that risked their lives that are now handicapped and is not receving adequate benefits for their battle wounds/scars.The neglect of such poor hospitalization and much more. Barack is not in offfice yet & all has taken place under the Bush Admin! 4 more of this or anyone in office like him! No Way! McCain is not offering any different than George Bush has already given us…We need change desperately…Go BARACK/BIDEN 2008!!!

  18. I would ask those who are so ready to support Barack Obama how they justify the MORAL issues of this campaign. No, I am not happy about the economy, and perhaps this downturn could have been thwarted by a more savvy Republican leadership. Truth is, of course, that the Democrats are the ones who got us into this situation back in 1999:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

    But those who have the audacity to even entertain the possibility that Obama is somehow a messenger of God have…well… lost their minds (and possibly their souls.) He is a proponent of partial birth abortion (the technique that delivers the baby’s head, pierces the skull, cuts the spinal cord… I’ll go no further.) He voted against legislation providing for medical intervention should an aborted child actually survive the abortion procedure. He recently admitted that he would not want his daughter burdened with an unwanted child, and would support the abortion of his grandchild.

    Yes, McCain has not taken the firm stand on abortion that I would like. He has passed the buck to “the states.” However, his personal stance is on of pro-life. I’ll take that over a proponent of partial birth abortion.

    I also find it interesting that, with the exception of your disagreement with our military intervention into a sociopathic, murderous regieme, EVERY reason you’ve given for voting for Obama has to do with your pocketbook. Where does God say your (or rather, His…) money is more important than the moral tenets of His Word. Shame on you! You’ve sold your soul for 30 pieces of silver.

    This election is about MORALITY, not the economy. I’ll choose to vote the heart of God, then trust His heart to meet my needs (perhaps not my wants, but certainly my needs!)

  19. Change is merely change. There is good change and bad change. Good change improves things and bad changes makes things worse.

    Nathan, some of the items you complain about are due to Republican policies. Some are due to policies of the Democrats. Is Obama taking responsibility for those? No.

    Some of the problems we face are just problems that will exist regardless of which party is in office.

  20. I am a middle-aged, white Christian woman who is deeply saddened by the hatred coming to the forefront during this election. I, myself, am having to face attitudes that I believed the Lord had worked to eradicate in my character. But like any other sinner-saved-by-grace-through-faith still living in this world, I am finding many areas for growth. However, I cannot in good conscience vote for a man who has this record–a record that shows support for such unbiblical practices. Make no mistake, my friends, pro-choice IS pro-abortion which IS pro-death. Look at the liberal backlash against Palin. She had a choice. In my mind, many women seem to hate her because of her choice to let her own baby live–and to support her daughter’s pregnancy. They seem to be threatened by her values because she is a strong woman who doesn’t fit their mold. Is she perfect? No, but I certainly admire the fact that in this instance, she “walked” her “talk.” Had she chosen to have an abortion or had her daughter chosen to have an abortion, these same pro-choice supporters most likely would have condemned her for doing the very thing they have fought so hard to make possible. I realize that we cannot create enough laws to prevent sin, but I don’t think we should make sin such an easy option. Knowing how this generation hates the word “sin,” I will say that we should not make murder legal and, therefore, much easier to justify. I have friends who have chosen abortion. In every case, they carry a load of guilt, not because of things their family or friends or even their pastors say, but because of their own realization that they compounded one wrong choice with another wrong choice.

    Unfortunately, many people are even re-writing history. Our founders WERE overwhelmingly Christians. Liberal professors are looking back at the lives of these men and seeing their flaws, taking some of their comments out of the context of their lives, and writing books that focus on the founders’ mistakes rather than their faith which was the basis of their character. I am no great scholar, but I have a degree in history and have read many books about our founding fathers–some were written by liberal scholars and some by more traditional scholars. It seems that historians today are very concerned with sensationalism and anything that will contradict long known truths. I suppose that sells more books. They are also the ones writing our public school textbooks. It’s frightening what they leave out or skew to support their opinions. By the way, I am a public school teacher. Take a moment to look back at the list of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution; you’ll find a majority who were pastors or at least trained in seminaries.

    Slavery was a great sin in our nation, and our nation paid a huge price for it during the civil war–a war that cost more American lives than did all of the other wars combined. We continue to pay a price in 2008. I cannot sit here in my modern perspective and understand how the Christian founders of our country let that evil remain when they drafted the Constitution. I do know that they compromised in order to establish an order they believed would benefit the majority. That right there should make us wary of compromising as a means to appease. Many of them agonized over what that choice would mean for the very country they were establishing. 200 years and a relatively few amendments later, we do have a constitution that grants freedoms and rights to the majority of our citizens: white, black, male and female. Should my generation, the generation who has grown up with integrated communities and schools, even in the South, continue to be pilloried for the sins of our forefathers? The great majority of us are appalled by racism.

    I’m not voting for McCain because he’s white. I’m not voting for McCain because I think he’s the best Christian candidate. I’m voting for McCain because I agree with his position on moral issues. On this, I will not compromise.

  21. In response to everyone who likes to call abortion “choice”, you can call it whatever you want. It is not going to make the act less of a crime and sin than it is. It is an abomination before the Lord. As a Christian, you should be able to see the Truth in solid terms. If you can’t, then you are morphing into the relativism of the culture we live in. No one is asking you to hate the sinner. Just the sin. When you begin to sympathize with the sinner to the point that you water down the sin, you have lost the salt the Word speaks of. You are no longer good for rebuking, correction or encouraging. If the Word of God is not the plumb line against which you measure all things, you have no base any more and are morally lost. At least be honest enough to say you don’t believe the Word any more. Don’t try to change its language to fit your politics.

  22. In response to Rhonda of October 11th, you say nothing happens without God’s approval? Just b/c God knows all things does not mean he approves it. That would be to say that all of history has happened by God’s approval. It is true that God is sovereign at all times and all of history will come to its end according to God’s plan. But to say that all that happens does so by God’s approval is to misunderstand free will. God does not approve of sin. He did not approve of slavery or the politics of those who supported it. God does take sides. Actually, people do. They either stand with the Lord in the Truth or against Him. How can you tell Obama to go with Jesus into the places he walks? God doesn’t change directions. You either walk with Him, or without Him. As far as Obama’s voting record goes, I don’t see him walking according to the Word of God.

  23. I think this whole discussion is sad. I think its funny that your here judging this man saying if he is for “THE RIGHT” to choose he is basically for abortion, if he is saying i dont have the right to tell someone who to love, he is basically supporting gay marriage…as so called christians you persecute him for saying i myself may not believe in same sex marriage or abortion but we shouldnt take that right from other people yet He seems to be the only person not judging people and you CLEARLY are yet it STATES in the bible not to judge …to love one another and treat someone as you would want to be treated because you yourself are not perfect.ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE !As for Mccain you support him on his morals yet he was against martin luther king day ….yet he leaves his wife and re-marries while his wife is still alive which is A SIN! palin supports the death penalty but is against abortion?does this make any sense???murder is murder in God’s eyes …Come on people

  24. It is indeed sad that no political candidate is ‘without sin.’ IMO, Christians must be very careful not to turn their candidate into a Messiah.

  25. You know . . . the truth of the whole matter is no matter who is elected, history shows the one elected will not follow through with campaign promises. One must vote for the lesser of 2 evils. I personally can’t vote for ANYONE whether democrat or republican who is in favor (whether by pro-choice or pro-abortion) of allowing viable tiny humans to be killed at the choice of the human who chose the activity which created that tiny child, knowing a human life could result from such activity. I can’t vote for anyone who is for things the God I serve calls an abomination. If we are going to allow same gender partners to have the benefits of a married couple, why don’t we also allow marriage to dogs, cats, horses, cows or any other animal we choose as a “partner?” It’s not about liberal or conservative . . . it’s a matter of principles and morality. Also, why does a race have to stand up and demand things based on race? Doesn’t that make them racist? Why shouldn’t it be just because they are human and all humans should receive the same benefits based on actual qualifications? Why should there be one test for whites and another for blacks and another for hispanics, etc . . . if we REALLY want equality in things, then the requirements should be the same no matter the race or nationality. I am not blind to the fact that true racism does exist but I do know that the racism I have seen during my life is not totally against any one race . . . it depends on the area of the country you are in who is the “underdog.” As for the election, we seriously need to pray for America and our leaders no matter who is elected. (as a side note . . . I do not in any way agree with ANY of Obama’s ideas, prinicples or ways . . . and if a man can’t make up his OWN mind to vote YES or NO or OBSTAIN while in the senate and he votes “present” (no logic there), how in the world is he going to be able to decide ANYTHING on a presidential level)

  26. God says to not judge by a measure you, yourself don’t want to be judged. He is talking about hypocrisy. The Word of God is not hypocritical. We are not judging Obama. We are holding his values reflected in his voting record to the Word and saying they do not line up. No one’s line up perfectly since we are all sinners. But, he is running for public office and what he believes on these things will have a far-reaching impact on our society. We are arguing these points as Christians. We are challenging people of faith. It has not one thing to do with judging anyone. God said do not judge. He did not say to be undiscerning. And, these issues cannot be reduced to “not telling someone who to love”. These issues have to do with the institution of marriage as designed by God. We do not have to throw out God’s law and holiness for tolerance. I can love my gay neighbors while not approving of their lifestyle. I don’t need friends in my life who are so bent on proving their tolerance that they nod at my sin. I won’t do that to someone else. It is a form or hatred in itself.

  27. The problem is everyone is concerned with whats going on in someone else’s personal business . I personally dont believe in abortion, i dont believe in gay marriage but i DO believe as human beings they have a right to the same benefits under the federal law (not church…law)
    As a human being who am I to tell you what to do with your body??? Who am I to JUDGE…Let God Judge!I am assuming since everyone is so against gays corrupting the sanctity of marriage then i guess your also against people re-marrying when the ex spouse is still alive?Your against death penalty? Since that is murder also?? I ask what has McCain done in the years he has been in the senate ??nothing that brought about real change. How is he going to rule when he and his own VP bump heads on many issues …..when they are not on the same page.How is he going to bring about change being the stubborn mule he is???oh I guess it doesnt matter long as he is against Ken and Ben laying next to each other!Then everything is ok!

  28. Huntley Brown expressed my sentiments exactly even to the scripture he pointed out about the people asking for a king.

    I agree that God is not schizophrenic. What He said in His word is what he meant, and I would advise everyone who claims they are Christian to draw close because we are in the end times.

    My hope is not in the president, but in God; government cannot legislate morality because government is corrupt and immoral; therefore, I suggest you don’t put your trust in it. I suggest you draw so close to Him that you see no one but Him; otherwise, you will be deceived. I am not suggesting we don’t obey the Word in Romans 13, but if the government’s rules go against God, I’d rather obey God than man.

    I’m sure satan is having a field day watching all the “Christians” bickering back and forth.

    All I can say is “Time will tell.”

    Luke 21

    1 Then Yeshua looked up, and as he watched the rich placing their gifts into the Temple offering-boxes, 2 he also saw a poor widow put in two small coins. 3 He said, “I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put in more than all the others. 4 For they, out of their wealth, have contributed money they could easily spare; but she, out of her poverty, has given all she had to live on.”
    5 As some people were remarking about the Temple, how beautiful its stone work and memorial decorations were, he said, 6 “The time is coming when what you see here will be totally destroyed — not a single stone will be left standing!” 7 They asked him, “Rabbi, if this is so, when will these events take place? And what sign will show that they are about to happen?” 8 He answered, “Watch out! Don’t be fooled! For many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!’ and, `The time has come!’ Don’t go after them. 9 And when you hear of wars and revolutions, don’t panic. For these things must happen first, but the end will not follow immediately.” 10 Then he told them, “Peoples will fight each other, nations will fight each other, 11 there will be great earthquakes, there will be epidemics and famines in various places, and there will be fearful sights and great signs from Heaven. 12 But before all this, they will arrest you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons; and you will be brought before kings and governors. This will all be on account of me, 13 but it will prove an opportunity for you to bear witness. 14 So make up your minds not to worry, rehearsing your defense beforehand; 15 for I myself will give you an eloquence and a wisdom that no adversary will be able to resist or refute. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends; some of you they will have put to death; 17 and every one will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will be lost. 19 By standing firm you will save your lives.
    20 “However, when you see Yerushalayim surrounded by armies, then you are to understand that she is about to be destroyed. 21 Those in Y’hudah must escape to the hills, those inside the city must get out, and those in the country must not enter it. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, when everything that has been written in the Tanakh will come true. 23 What a terrible time it will be for pregnant women and nursing mothers! For there will be great distress in the Land and judgment on the people. 24 Some will fall by the edge of the sword, others will be carried into all the countries of the Goyim, and Yerushalayim will be trampled down by the Goyim until the age of the Goyim has run its course. 25 “There will appear signs in the sun, moon and stars; and on earth, nations will be in anxiety and bewilderment at the sound and surge of the sea, 26 as people faint with fear at the prospect of what is overtaking the world; for the powers in heaven will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with tremendous power and glory. 28 When these things start to happen, stand up and hold your heads high; because you are about to be liberated!” 29 Then he told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, Indeed, all the trees. 30 As soon as they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves that summer is near. 31 In the same way, when you see these things taking place, you are to know that the Kingdom of God is near! 32 Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before it has all happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away. 34 “But keep watch on yourselves, or your hearts will become dulled by carousing, drunkenness and the worries of everyday living, and that Day will be sprung upon you suddenly like a trap! 35 For it will close in on everyone, no matter where they live, throughout the whole world. 36 Stay alert, always praying that you will have the strength to escape all the things that will happen and to stand in the presence of the Son of Man.” 37 Yeshua spent his days at the Temple, teaching; while at night he went out and stayed on the hill called the Mount of Olives. 38 All the people would rise with the dawn to come and hear him at the Temple courts.

    Shalom

  29. Most people agree that we should not have Anarchy. That means there will be laws. That will establish morals and values for the community. It is a JUDGMENT about what is right.

    When we say murder is wrong it is a judgment. If life begins at conception, and it does, taking that life is, by definition, murder.

    One cannot copout and say, “Who am I to judge?”

  30. My church is an poor ,inner city ,mixed racial church. I agree with you 100%. Since my husband is the preacher, we can not endorse any candidate in the church. I do forward articles such as yours to my e-mail list. I thank you for your endorcement of the only Christian candidate.

  31. Thank you for your willingness to stand up for what is right in God’s eyes. It’s not about color. It’s about the man and his beliefs. As a Christian, we must not waiver between right and wrong. There is a deep deception going on in the hearts of man during this election. Yes, we want change, yes we can..but at the expense of selling our soul..NO WE CAN’T!

  32. YOU NEED TO FACT CHECK SOME OF YOUR STATEMENTS. SOME ARE MISLEADING. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN INFANTCIDE. YES HE BELIEVES IN THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. IT IS BETWEEN THAT PERSON AND GOD. I MYSELF DO NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION BUT IT IS NOT FOR ME TO CAST A STONE WHEN I MAY HAVE A BIG BOULDER AT MY OWN DOOR. NO HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN SAME SEX MARRIAGE. YES HE BELIEVES THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME CIVIL LIBERTIES. HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR ANCESTORS FELT WHEN THEY DIDN’T HAVE RIGHTS TO VOTE ETC BECAUSE THEY FELT WE WERE INFERIOR AND SOME EVEN JUSTIFIED IT WITH THE BIBLE? IT IS NOT US TO DECIDE WHO DESERVES WHAT RIGHTS GOD LOVES ALL PEOPLE EVEN HOMOSEXUALS LET GOD HAD THE LAST SAY AND YOU WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE IM SURE GOD WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY TO YOU.

  33. I am really in a quandary why people keep writing in and categorizing abortion as an issue of “choice”. Was slavery an issue of choice? Yes. Slave owners “chose” to own slaves b/c it was economical and convenient. An entire economy became dependent on slaves and a person’s right to own them. Slaves would not have “chosen” to be slaves. Babies would not “choose” to be killed. Be careful how you use the word “choice” to protect a person’s right to kill a baby. It is a slippery slope of moral decay and an increasingly disregard for life itself. Who will “choose” life for you when you are too old and dependent on others to speak for yourself? Maybe it will then be someone else’s “choice” to euthanize you b/c your continuing to live would be, simply put, inconvenient.

  34. F.D. — I’ve never heard it put so eloquently before. That’s it in a nutshell.

  35. I don’t understand the Obama supporters. I strongly suggest they use their computer and do some research. Sen. Obama’s association with several people is very questionable. It has nothing to do with religion or race, just with whom he associates.

  36. Being an Independent with many many African American friends, and some of that blood in my own family, I have to say that Mr Brown is a man on his knees before the Lord. How many of you that disagree with him know scripture as well, but more importantly are on your knees praying for divine guidance? God has annointed this great talent and the Holy Spirit is directing him in all ways and in all things. Is God’s Holy Spirit directing you? I am speaking of hours and hours of intercessory prayer. Obama will appoint Justices that will vote for the elimination of lives. How can that be justified by God’s Holy Word?
    Obama is a Universalist by belief. Do you know what that belief is? I have had family of that belief and I know. Research it and know the truth. Huntley Brown knows this and Huntley Brown knows truth. Obama will not acknowledge that scripture that says that the only way to come to the Father is through his SON. It is the only way and Obama does NOT believe that.
    I honestly wish an African -American and a woman someday soon could take the White House, but God has not annointed one that meets the direct law of God of the Bible yet. It will happen if we are on our knees. I am patient.
    You people out there voting for Obama because he is Black (only part) is like the sheep being led to the slaughter. He will not be a man on his knees or believe that through Christ only we reach God.

    Jeanie Jones
    Whitehouse, Tx.

  37. Amen!

  38. There is no small sin or big sin. A sin is a siin. Abortion is not a bigger sin than lying. Homesexuality is not a bigger sin then stealing. John McCain cheating on his wife and leaving her for another woman is not a bigger sin than Barrack Obama sitting in Jeremiah Wright’s church. Sarah Palin using her office to handle a personal grudge is not a bigger sin than child molestation. Sarah Palin’s daughter having sex and a baby outside of marraige is a not smaller sin than committing murder. People a sin is a sin. Whether I sit in Billy Graham’s church or Reverend Wrights’. They are responsible to God for what they to as I am responsible for what I do. Because I go to Billy Graham’s church does that mean I am the perfect Christian and I am sinless, hateless, flawless. Because I go to Rverernd Wright’s church does that mean I am a detestable lying, murdering criminal, full of anger and hate. Because I go to Huntley Brown’s Church does that make me a perfect sinless human being and further more does it give me the right to tell people who to vote for. By the same measure he should tell us the sins, characters, voting records and everything else about John McCain, Joe Biden, and Sarah Palin and let us make our decision. Everything we hear out of the candidates mouth should not be met with blind belief. If I am a child of God I have to be discerning. I have never heard Michelle Obama, Joe Biden, and Barrack Obama talk with the hatred I have heard from the McCain Camp. They have all had a gracious attitude regarding the other side, no matter what venom, contempt and hatred form John McCain, Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin. They have not personally attacked the them because of their sins of maratial affairs, drug abuse, lying, promiscuity, hatred. All sins. God can change anyone’s heart, or character be it Barrack Obama when he is a the President of the United States or John MCCain when he is the President of the United States, because I see the beleifs of neither is the perfect will of God. Jesus is Perfect. No, not one of us is perfect even Mr. Brown. We vote by prayer, discernment, because any candidate can be a liar, including Senators McCain and Obama. They can say anything from their mouth to get votes, but what is in their heart only God knows.

  39. Shortly after Senator Obama was elected SENATOR, I was watching Channel 11 on a Sunday morning in Chicago. He was speaking at a black church congregation and was being reprimanded for not being black enough.

    His answer was: “As long as I am in public office, the needs of the black man will always come first on my agenda.”

    WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE WHITE MAN?

  40. Shortly after Obama was elected SENATOR, I was watching Channel 11 on a Sunday morning in Chicago. He was speaking to a black congregation who was reprimanding him for not being black enough.

    His answer was: “As long as I am in public office, the needs of the black man will always come first on my agenda.”

    WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE WHITE MAN?

  41. As I see it, Obama has an inner soul that is more appropriate for us to follow. I feel that Christ would not condone McCain. If we identify with a man who condones adultery and is not willing to attribute some of the tax burden for his cronies, I would think that we are in great trouble. Obama has asked men to be responsible and he has demonstrated a clear picture of people helping people.

  42. Mr. Brown, I so commend you and I support you. How can we condone that which has been done to us by committing those same sins? This African American female will not be supporting or voting for Barack Obama for the same reasons and a few more. I am confounded by the fact that anyone would vote for anyone based on the color of their skin and just that. As I read your post and the comments, it is clear that people knowing this will find any excuse to justify the madness. Many of those who support Obama are clueless as to what the man actually stands for. And when the truth hits home, it will not feel so good because they sold themselves for a dime or less.

    The problem with this is many of Obama supporters as to the platform of Obama.

    REFER TO: OBAMA SUPPORTERS KNOW ONLY ONE THING AND THAT IS THAT OBAMA IS BLACK: They agree with McCain’s agenda, but Obama is black (See Howard Stern embed) and so he will get their vote.

    http://vodpod.com/watch/1082462-obama-supporters-interviewed-have-no-idea-of-his-positions-howard-stern-youtube-embed?pod=pumabydesign001

    While, it may be a bitter pill to swallow, the problem with anyone voting for a man solely based on the color of his skin is that EVENTUALLY, one appears uninformed. It is just a matter of time.

    God bless you sir, and your family.

  43. OMG… what on Earth does ‘ONE NATION UNDER GOD’ MEAN?????????????????????????????????

  44. PUMABYDESIGN ARE YOU PART OF PARTY UNITY MY A###? IF SO YOU WORDS ARE NEGATED

  45. It is disturbing that this election has generated so much hatred and ignorance. There wasn’t all this vocalizing during past presidential elections? I resent the fact that some African-Americans and Caucasians think that the only reason other African-Americans are voting for Obama is because of his race. Alot of Caucasians and Afrocan-Americans are voting for McCain just because he is Caucasian. Why is it so hard to believe that they believe in what the man stands for? We do have the ability to draw our own conclusions along with our Caucasian counterparts. If both canidates were Caucasian Mr. Huntley Brown would not have written his commentary along with others. It seems when the races get involved the band plays loudest. Everyone is talking about “Pro Choice” and Same sex this and that. Where were these voices when these laws were being put on the books (none of you can say you weren’t around b/c same sex marriages just came to be in the past year and if you are so against abortions why have you not gotten out there and got that changed? We are quick to blame others for our lack of doing. Obama didn’t invent these things neither did McCain . this stuff was done presidents ago. So if you want to point fingers point at yourselves cause you have allowed these things to happen.
    Fine, if you don’t want to vote for Obama; that’s your right but why all the gum flapping? We all have the right to make our own choices. When you go in that booth to vote it is only you voting. No one else will know what button you push or why . So why do we feel the need to spray all this meaness. No one knows Obamas or McCains true relationship with GOD but them, Either one can tell you whatever they think we want to hear. It is up to you without the nugging of Mr. Huntley Brown or any one else to make your choice. Come what may as long as you vote in the way you feel is best for you thats all you can be responsible for. So don’t put down the next person cause you don’t agree. That’s why we live in America (FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!). Our Country is standing on shakey ground right now and no matter who is voted into office lets support that person. Pray for Guidiance and hope for a better furture. I did not agree with Bush but it p####d me off when the Dixie Chicks made that statement about him. How can we expect other countries to RESPECT us when we don’t RESPECT our own leader. We need to stand together as a nation. The truth will come out.

  46. Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:10 PM
    Subject: Why Racism confuses Whites

    Well lets see if we can help you two White guys with a little insight.

    People voting AGAINST someone solely because of their race is called racism..

    Someone, who in their lifetime have seen their brothers and sisters hosed off the streets by police, that witness their preachers and community leaders beaten to a pulp on the bridge at Selma, people that saw german shepherds sicced on them merely because they were marching to be allowed to eat a Woolworths, people that saw Emmit Till’s body fished out of river because he whistled at woman of another race, people that sent their sons off to die in Viet Nam and never saw a Black face in a movie about Viet Nam, people that every day have it shoved in their face that being Black was the sole justification for hatred and suspicion, when THOSE people get to look up and see a BLACK man running for President. YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT THEY FEEL PRIDE. And if they vote for him because they know how much it took for the BLACK son of single mother fight to make it to Harvard , fight to make it to the Illinois Senate, fight to make it to the US Senate, fight to beat the most powerful political machine, the Clintons, you are DAMN RIGHT THERE IS PRIDE. And if you don’t know the difference between racism (voting against a person) and just plain-we’ve-paid-with-blood-and-suffering PRIDE then racism has affected you more than you will every realize. And that is so much sadder than any Black American voting for Senator Obama because he is Black.

    “We are not a country governed by the people. We are a country governed by the people who participate.” Thomas Jefferson

  47. Seems to me that voting based solely on skin color is racism either way.

  48. I would accept this (though I would still vote Obama-Biden for other reasons) if not for the fact that McCain is pro-war. It amazes me that pro-lifers won’t vote for a pro-choice candidate but they will vote for a pro-war candidate. Is it ok to kill people( I don’t know if I consider aborting an embryo killing, I just don’t know) after they are fully developed and have families who love and depend on them for thier futures? Makes no sense. I am not pro-abortion, I am pro-choice, but listen, I wish no one ever had to abort a pregnancy, I wish no pregnancy was ever unwanted, but this is a real world and all sorts of things, good and bad occur, and those things bring about sadness and joy alike, and sometimes they force us to make choices we don’t want to and didn’t foresee. Some of these situations were indeed forced upon us by actions that were committed against us, should we then be bound by the rules of someone who voluntarily put themselves in a situation that appears to be like ours? I think not! People more often than not, do what they feel they have to do and not what they’d like to do and that is just one very significant reason I am pro-choice. Pro-choice and pro-war are however two totally different animals. One is very personal with consequences I pray to never know, the other is a power based decision made by those who are least likely to suffer any personal loss. How can you in good conscious vote for a man who would go to war against other countries when war is not necessary. There are thousands of Iraqi women who were pregnant who’ve died in this war, they were pro-life, what about them, what about their babies, or is it only Christian babies we are concerned with, and if that is the case what about the Christian Iraqis and children and babies, they’ve died as well. Does pro-life mean unborn American babies, or does it mean that all people who have done nothing to deserve death have the right to life? Vote what you mean.

  49. RedWing and Lisa,

    RedWing, thanks for putting a spin on the facts. Obama is simply for abortion (pro-choice is the spin term for abortion, sounds nicer, but it is abortion), for racism against whites (20 years in the church that preaches it and that he is a disciple in tells me that), for gay (which is a repentable choice, not how you are born, Sodom and Gomorrah outcome proved that) rights.
    Lisa, being ‘pro-war’ and protecting your family and your country from those who would maim and kill you isn’t a sin. It is a right and a duty of parents and family members to protect each other. If you tried to avoid that duty, you would be penalized BY LAW for being negligent. And you would get to answer to God, in the end, for not performing your basic familial duties.
    Stop spinning what you know is wrong and try calling a spade, a spade.

  50. I would like to respond to Lisa. You characterize McCain (and those of us who support him) as war lovers. You have that wrong. We are freedom lovers. Our own and others. Please read the following excerpt out of the Muslims’ tenets of faith. This is why we are at war in Iraq and in Afghanistan. You are kidding yourself to believe that we are fighting an imaginary enemy. He is real and growing in hatred which fuels all his movement. It is why 9/11 happened and will happen again. You do not negotiate with evil. It is not faithful to ANYONE. I thank God for George Bush whose sensibilities about good and evil enabled him to stand against the evil that is coming against us. We are defending ourselves. We are not picking on anyone. Ask the people of Iraq if they regret us coming over there? Ask them if they liked living under a dictator who beheaded their loved ones in the streets and reigned with terror. Would they return to that and give up the chance they now have at a democratic society? I doubt it. With the same words you use when you address abortion, I will use here. “I wish we never had to go to war. That war was never necessary. But this is a real world, and all sorts of good and bad things occur, and those things bring about sadness and joy alike and sometimes they force us to make choices we don’t want to…” No one enters into war lightly, not even the Republicans. Of all people, McCain would know how ugly war is. Some of us know without ever having gone. We were standing there when the towers fell. Were you?

    4 – “Holy War” (a “jihad”):
    The Western “stereotype of a Muslim” is a man marching sword aloft and followed by a long train of wives”…
    – The Koran and the life of Muhammad, indeed encourage “Holy War” ( a “jihad”).
    – The Koran, encourages it by offering Paradise to the one who dies for Allah, plus the good care of his family by God while he is in Paradise (Sura 3:169)… anyone who dies in holy war is a “martyr” assured of heaven…
    The main reason for the Holy War is “idolatry”, and indeed, “an error in religion” is worst than a cancer in the heart, it can ruin your only life on earth, and can bring you to eternal Hell… this is how the Koran says: “Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed… fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme” (Sura 2:91-93).
    In the previous verse says “do not attack them first, God does not like aggressors”… but Jews and Christians are “idolaters”… so, fight against them until idolatry is no more!… and Hindus and Buddhist are “idolaters”…

    The Koran talks about “tolerance of religion”, and the use of force only when attacked, or for social justice… but since “idolatry” is the main offense, it is a good reason to attack Jews, Christians, Hindus… and, in fact, Islam has been in history the “religion of the sword”, spread by the sword and upheld by the sword.

    The definition of a “right war” is that “must either be defensive or to right a wrong”.

  51. Question? Mr. Black Man, Why do you have to emphasize your skin color to make your point? Does it make it more valid because you are black? I find that a bit hypocritical to use MLK’s quote about “character”, but yet you make that your title. Since, you’re such a fan of him, here’s some food for thought….

    “A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.”
    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    After 8 years of this Bush disaster we need change. Come on people don’t be so ignorant do some research, travel, learn. Get your facts straight. I still can’t understand how so many devout “Christians” fight to ban abortion but support a war that is killing American boys and thousands of Iraqi civilians. Once again, I find it hypocritical. A life is a life.

  52. LPF, I take it that you are ready to campaign AGAINST war and AGAINST abortion. Great! Ask Mr. Obama to change his platform on abortion. Then ask read Mr. McCain’s platform on the war in Iraq.

    Any thoughts on the war in Afghanistan?

  53. To Red Wing and any others who support Obama… First, he’s not “technically” black, he’s malato, he has a white mother who’s black husband left her. Incidently, where is Obama’s birth certificate and why has it not been produced? What happened to his father? And as a person with the propoganda that he’s here to help the middle class, why don’t you start at home as in your 1/2 brother in Africa who’s annual income is $12/year? Really, all you have to do iBarack is send him another $12.00 a year and you will have doubled his annual income. Obama has done NOTHING. Hhmmm… that does not require an education past the 4th grade to deduce his character, it’s in keeping with his actions. Let’s leave Christianity out of this. True believers know the truth and will vote accordingly. Those who are religious or walking in deception will continue to do so and get what they are hoping for.
    Let us not be ignorant however, our forefathers who shed their blood for religious freedom, democracy (true democracy not the liberal aberration) free enterprise, and the right to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, their spirit has not left Amercia. The radicals of this nation, whether you call them liberals, leftist, islamics, etc.. do not perceive the ensuing civil war that will hit our nation when socialism is forced on them. And this is for any color of human being. We are not “African Americans” we are Americans. Please drop the false ID that begs victom mentality. The Jews do not say, “Jewsih Americans”, nor the Italians, “Italian” Americans, nor the Poles, “Polish” Americans… our friends who don’t understand this slept through history class or never attended, or perhaps can’t read yet. Abortion? Why save the whales, the Polar bear, the Eagle or any animal without a spirit and yet murder human beings? Even if you believe in evolution you are admitting that at some point we transcended instinct to have autonomous thought and communication… that’s who you are destroying. Save your words… It’s murder. Just admit it, what’s to argue over? In the meantime, perhaps martial law is an interesting topic for you to consider… after all, it’s “relative” right and wrong, is it not? There is no standard of truth, so hey, whatever you feel like, just don’t hurt anyone’s feelings… What an absurd way of thought… Read history… where did this type of barbaic thinking lead? it’s not a new concept, no one is being original here, ignorant, stupid perhaps, but not original.

  54. Well LPF, Obama wants to put those same troops in Afghanistan, so a war will still be fought. Mr. Brown, excellent, excellent post.

    F.D. Your 10/13 post was brilliant. Thanks for writing that.

  55. Let me start by saying that I am by no means anti-war. If war is necessary then we will go to war, it really is that simple. Iraq however, was unnecessary, period. The perpetrators of 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq.They in fact had a whole lot to do with Saudi Arabia, whom we still pal around with but that’s not the point. Afghanistan is a necessary war and I support our efforts to win,and to capture and destroy Bin Laden, and all who would harm us, let there be no mistake in that. But that is not what my post was about, I made reference to certain situations because I question the definition of “pro-life” by some that is all.
    As for pro-choice meaning abortion, I can only state that “pro-choice” means nothing other than “pro-choice” to me. What it means to “you” is “your” meaning do not attempt to attribute your meaning to my opinions or thoughts. I have no problem stating exactly what I mean with perfect and absolute clarity. I am quite certain that is evident.

  56. Lisa – I appreciate your response above. I am glad to hear you support war when necessary. Clearly we disagree about Iraq. But, I caution you once more to stop hiding behind words to justify your position. You want to turn a blind’s eye to abortion by terming it “choice”. Choice means you can decide to keep or murder the baby you are carrying. There is no difference in the meaning for you or for me. As a Christian, we cannot stand on two sides. We must stand in the Truth, even when it is uncomfortable.

  57. Lisa, first I do agree with you on Iraq in that we were lied to in order to go there. I am not one that likes Bush. But I do like McCain over Obama

    Second, F.D. has a point. You are hiding behind the words. Nobody has ever made a point clearer than FD. That baby a woman may abort didn’t have the choice to die, and quite frankly F.D. has hit a homerun on that one.

    Finally, I am more of a moderate myself and undertand abortion in the very early stages might be needed. It may also be needed for the health of the mother. I didn’t realize until last night’s debate that the pro-abortion people are using the definition of “health of the mother” in any way they like. If the mother will die, is my only meaning when I state that. To me, after the baby has formed, abortion should be outlawed unless these dire circumstances occur. Obama will win this election because people are blinded. If you watched the video above of Howard Stern, I believe people could ask the same of a lot of Obama supporters, not just blacks and they’d say the same thing. Americans just want change and will vote for Obama no matter what their beliefs. I want change too, but not enough to go against my own morals by voting for Obama.

    This is why I personally was happy McCain chose Palin because unlike everyone else who said it showed bad judjement, it showed me he was willing to change. For a republican to choose a woman at that level was amazing to me. So it gave me hope that they will also change things. And since my morals are more with that ticket, they will get my vote.

  58. God does not change? You must be joking. Just read the Old and New Testaments. Tell me that the vengeful, angry, vicious, jealous God of the Old Testament resembles in ANY way the New Testament God who is Love. Who loves ALL his children regardless of what they do and don’t do. Mercy and forgiveness…..not judgement, condemnation and intolerance. The God of the Old testament is nothing but a projection of our own ego, full of itself. It evolved, as we are supposed to….,.to mature spiritually and not nitpick on the letter of the Law but on its intent.

  59. Religion was used and is used to explain and shed light on circumstances in which we did not understand or to give us peace of mind in situations we cannot control. However, with science evolving, producing more concise conclusive evidence, there is less need to rely on religion. I am not just saying this because I’m a SINNER or a dirty NON-BELIEVER, I understand why people do follow these practices, and I admire the Lord’s trappings. I am lonelier now than I have ever been cause when in the most dire times I want to believe someone is with me, I can’t. I refuse to hide behind and blindly follow, without using my own common sense, something that was and will never be proven as well as something with the contradictory history that religion has been “blessed” with.

    There is no God, we are on our own.

    If one states, “we cannot vote upon race”, such as Brown has exclaimed how can you vote upon religion? Religion and Politics should remain secular and be kept separate. If you vote because of religion, you might as well be voting for someone based on their skin colour.

    These old-fashioned, traditions are out-dated and if anything, they inhibit us to grow and evolve as humans.

  60. I read a post up a ways by someone named Redwing who said that Obama is not for abortion but for the right to choose.

    Using that logic, I can equivocably say that Obama is not for infanticide, but he is for denying babies born alive as the result of a failed abortion their basic human rights.

    While in the Illinois State Senate, a bill came up several times for a vote. It was a BAIPA bill – or Born Alive Infant Protection Act – and over the three years it was being brought before the state senate, Barack Obama voted against it three times and once he voted “present” as he is in the habit of doing for political reasons.

    This bill had nothing to do with actual abortion, but it had everything to do with caring for infants who were born alive despite the abortionists best efforts to kill them.

    Those infants come under the definition of “live born infant” according the the definition drafted by the World Health Organization in 1950 and officially established by the United Nations in 1955

    http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/natality/natmethods.htm

    What Barack Obama did when he voted against the BAIPA bill was to vote against the human rights of these babies who are considered individuals by definition. But Obama chose to equate trying to protect those babies human rights with the mother’s “right to choose abortion”…

    But the living baby is no longer part if an abortion decision, it is now a separate human being having been expelled from it’s mother’s body, regardless of how it ended up that way.

    His “above my pay grade” statement at Saddleback was him showing the yellow stripe up his back where the human rights of these babies are concerned. He is so in Planned Parenthood’s pocket that he would be willing to allow approximately 500 children per year (according to the CDC) to die without any medical care (not even pain meds) in order to make the Abortion lobby happy. Here is his reasoning in audio:

    http://www.jillstanek.com/29383467.mp3

    How can we allow a man who denies the human rights of helpless babies sit in the Oval Office and lead our nation? And taking into consideration all the other times he’s made bad judgments, how will we NOT escape God’s judgement?

    God help us all if he ever gets in office…

    (Here is a page with all the links to the official government archived documents showing his votes and other pertinent facts:

    http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html )

  61. I echo everything this article says and then some. As a Christian, an American, a multiracial (or Black American for Sticklers), a US Military Veteran, a Wife, a Mother, for all that I am… I have always been a voter and assumed my right to vote at the age of 18. That being said, Color wasn’t a factor in my voting history and it won’t be a factor now! Bottom line, if you claimed to know Jesus as your personal Savior, you should not be voting for a man(OBAMA) who votes and speaks against everything JESUS CHRIST stands for. Don’t buy into the lies of liberals and their socialist ways… If this is the way American people want our country run, then we need to shred up The DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE,The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, and The BILL OF RIGHTS and surrender ourselves back to The BRITISH PARLIAMENT… Think about it????

    For those who think that Christians are being Judgmental… Here is a little food for thought… The words are GRACE, ACCEPTANCE, UNDERSTANDING. Grace is what God showed me, when I Accepted His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ as my personal Savior.

    I grew up in poverty, in a broken home, raised by my grandparents, had abandonment issues w/my parents, was raped, molested, and sodomized (at age 5,7, and 18) and before I turned 18 had two abortions and was suicidal… But why? It was because I was a victim of people with no moral compass or truthful guidance in their lives… In other words, they didn’t know Jesus. They were emotionally driven and governed their lives and mine by how the wind blew. These type of people are also know as Liberals. When a person doesn’t want to govern themselves according to God’s word (The HOLY BIBLE), then they wander aimlessly though life, just trying to figure things out. They also try to justify and rationalize their wrong doing away to make themselves feel better. In which most cases, if that doesn’t help they will turn to substance abuse, having sex and kids or sex with kids all for the namesake of trying to figure out who they are and what their purpose is…

    This may sound like a sob story, but what I learned over the years was that these issues not only plagued my past, but that also of my mother, grandmother, and other families around the world. People perish from the lack of knowledge…

    At 29, I am completely new and different person because I trust God… the reason I was a victim from birth to 18 was because I was a minor governed by godless people. I received liberation from that type of life, when I ACCEPTED that though my family may have loved me; they didn’t know the true love of God and could not teach me or protect me from what they didn’t know.

    God calls for all people to trust Him, be governed according to His word and will, and honor obedience and order. Thus, is the reason for our government that was founded on God’s Biblical principles…

    UNDERSTANDING means that all things are permissible, but not beneficial. God gave us free will, but if you choose to desecrate your body with drugs and alcohol, have an abortion, rape someone or have sex outside of marriage (which is one man and one women) THAT IS NOT GOD’S FAULT NOR DID HE DO THAT TO YOU! You made that choice and you have to be responsible for your ACTIONS and how they will effect others involved and/or innocent people.

    THEREFORE, you can’t change the law of gravity because you continue to fall on your face. You just need to accept it and learn to pick up your feet when you walk. It is a natural law along with the other natural laws set forth by GOD.

    In closing, God gives us Grace through Faith, Acceptance that neither Political Party or candidate is perfect ( because all people are fallible ), and Understanding that some Politicians are working on behalf of our best interest and some “say” they are working on behalf of our best interest. But if they are not working earnestly with all of their effort according to God’s laws ( by which our Constitution is modeled ) then they’re not working on our behalf, they are just doing what feels good.

  62. WOW! I cannot beleive this absolute garbage! So lets vote for McCain which is just as evil! During elections, it never fails that each candidate degrades the other, with all kinds of things which are not true, which make both a liar. So why would any christian person, vote for a liar. Regardless of who they are voting for. There is so much mud slinging in politics, and I would think that most people would realize that. But here it sounds like people are taking the “opinions” of one man and beleiving in it all. What is this an occult?? Are you bowing down to this guy or to God. I am a firm believer in God. The one thing that seems to come to mind is “There is only one true judge, and thats God” so why is this man judging Obama. And about the church that Obama went to. I live in a town with many many churches. Over the years I have seen predominantly black churches, and then the other 80% of churches are mostly white folk. But the one thing is a black person can walk into one of the “white” churches and not a thing would be said.. and vice verse…. It just so happens that for many many many years this is the way our churches have been. It has nothing to do with being racist. As for the abortion issue, I could never and would never get one, but these woman that wish to have one would find a way to do it regardless of the legality of it. And of course this goes back to what I said before, they will be Judged by God. Me, you, or the next person have no right at all to judge anyone. Now when you are judged by someone you now have nothing to say, becuase you yourself have judged.

  63. Great story Machelle.

  64. Iam 63 years old and I accepted Christ as my Savior
    at a young age but did not live for him tlill many trails
    let me know of his devine love.The scriptures I have
    read affirm that this man is not judging but by O’Boma’s
    fruits have made known to all who have eyes to read
    of His choices, that those choices prove he has no
    love for Life,liberty, or the best interest of the American
    People.May GOD HELP US NOT TO SEE COLOR BUT
    QUILIFACATIONS AND DEDICATION AND LOVE FOR
    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.SINCERELY ELAINE WEBB.

  65. Tiffany,

    Even Christians have the right to vote. What you call garbage, we consider very important issues. Did you not read my post above and check the links provided?

    As I said in my post, the BAIPA bill had nothing to do with the abortion issue and would not have “undermined” Roe v Wade – are you saying that you also think it’s okay to allow babies “born alive” as the result of a botched abortion… meaning you have a live baby – not a dead one – that is in need of medical attention, and can you seriously say to me that YOU think that Obama’s decision to vote AGAINST HELPING LIVING BABIES is Okay?

    You tell us that we have no right to judge anyone… you obviously do not understand your Bible.

    Obama claims to be a Christian. So if he claims to be a Christian, then he is to be judged by Christian standards and ethics.

    The “Judge not, lest you be judged” excuse for telling Christians not to “judge” is out of misunderstanding Scripture.

    Here is the whole Scripture from Matthew 7:1-5

    1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
    3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You HYPOCRITE, FIRST TAKE THE PLANK OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

    The WHOLE passage means to not judge other HYPOCRITICALLY, it doesn’t mean not to judge. We have to check our own hearts first and make sure we are not doing the same things that those who we are accusing are doing.

    You cannot read the Bible an interpret it one verse at a time like that. Although some verses have clear meaning in and of themselves, most must be taken IN CONTEXT.

    If a person claims to be a Christian, then he is to be judged by Christian standards using the Bible, not public opinion or cultural standards. God’s standards are not the same as man’s standards – and just because Christians do not always follow the standards of God doesn’t mean those in the church should not judge him. Though we cannot bring a brother under church discipline when he does not belong to our congregation, we can and SHOULD, however, make a judgement to see if his confession matches his life and actions, but we must make a righteous judgement. So if you are judging what Mr. Huntley is saying (and yet Mr. Huntley is judging based on biblical precedent) then are you not also judging when you should not be?

    Again in Matthew 7, starting in verse 15, Jesus tells his disciples, ”

    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

    The Church is not a building, but it is the body of Christ as a whole – for we are all one body under our Lord, Jesus Christ – there is no distinction between black and white – those are man’s distinctions, not God’s. My church has people of many colors in it – some are white, others black, others from India, Mexico, just to name a couple of the many different ethnicities I see every Sunday. It’s gorgeous. We also have many mixed race couples and tons of wonderful little medium brown babies running the halls every week. My own grandchild is half Lao, and has the only set of brown eyes in our family, while the rest of us have blue eyes and are about the most caucasian people I know… so our lifestyle is one of inclusion and acceptance, though it is not something we consciously do. It is natural to us because we see one another as created by God in His image – to separate ourselves based on race would be unnatural to us.

    Though anybody can come to church, there are always going to be people in the church that are not what they claim to be. Only the people who join the church are subject to that church’s “rules” for lack of a better word – and those rules should be based on the Bible. If a church member is found to be in sin (like adultery or theft for instance), should they NOT be judged? I tell you if they don’t repent they should be PUT OUT of the church.

    But are only the Christians subject to the law of God?

    John the Baptist rebuked Herod Antipas, a non-believer, for divorcing his wife and then taking his brother’s wife – an incestuous relationship. Although they were not in the church, they were leaders in the land of the Jews, and John the Baptist spoke out against the behavior because is violated mosaic law. But since the Jews did not enjoy the freedom of speech we do in this day and age, when John spoke out, he knew he was basically asking to be martyred. To speak out against a Roman tetrarch was suicide, especially if it politically embarrassed them… so because of this, John the Baptist lost his head, and this is what Jesus said about John the Baptist:

    Matthew 11:

    10 This is the one about whom it is written:
    ” ‘I will send my messenger ahead of you,
    who will prepare your way before you.’
    11 I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he… ….. …
    13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15He who has ears, let him hear.

    John the Baptist was the last of the Prophets to come before Jesus, and according to Jesus, he was the greatest prophet.

    Here is more commentary about John and Herod:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=1&source=1&seq=i.47.14.1

    There is NO SUCH THING as an amoral (without morals) nation – someone’s morals will prevail – whose morals do YOU want to prevail in this nation? DO YOU want men in office who do not respect and protect the human rights of living babies, and who thinks that it’s no big deal to associate with people who historically HATE our nation and use violence to attack it??

    You also said, “As for the abortion issue, I could never and would never get one… ”

    WHY could you never have an abortion? Is it wrong? Is it because you think it’s wrong? If it’s wrong for you, then how can it not be wrong for others as well? If something is wrong, how can it not always be wrong? And then when you say if they do get an abortion, then “they will be judged by God”, you’ve just assumed they are in sin and that God will Judge them for it. And you’d be right and you would have also just made a moral judgement on them.

    They will also be forgiven if they repent, meaning turn from their sin and the way they’ve lived before – and turn to God and obey him out of love for Him and accepting His Son, Jesus Christ, as propitiation (substitutionary provision) for their own sin.

    Huntley Brown mentioned Martin Luther King, Jr. in his letter. So many Democrats hold up MLK as an icon for their party, but did you know that MLK was a registered Republican, and that he was also pro-life?

  66. God have mercy! This article is wonderful. There has been so much SIN in our nation, for so long, that people are reluctant to do what is right. We are all brothers and sisters. There is only a tiny difference in the variation that makes skin colors. I thought we had come a long way in the US, until the ‘Reverends’ began their tirade against the white community. This dear Brother in Christ has got it right. Sarah Palin is the Esther for our generation.

  67. In these hard times we need a leader who has patience and intellegence. John McCain partied while he was in school, which he did not have to strive for because of his station inlife. Barrack Obama had to work hard and study and get good grades and got to good schools on his own.

    We need a leader who thinks for himself, not just a puppet for his party. I used to think I wish John McCain were president instead of George Bush. But, lately something has happened to him. I have looked further into his background and find that he does not have much common sense. No one mentioned that he never bothered to read the manual when he learned to fly his jet. He crashed and could not figure out how to get out of the seat because he did not know how. Do we want someone who thinks like that to be our leader.

    I do not believe in abortion or these other things you talk about but these things should not be decided by our President. They should be decided by each person individually and if there need be laws then we already have them in the Bible and in our respective churches. At this time of time and trouble we need someone with intellegence and reason.

    Sorry to offend. I am a good Christian but please look at other things. Soon we will not have a country to worry about. Your religious rights will be taken away if we are taken over by another belief.

  68. Why do you think God will help you in this election? And if Jesus were real, he’d be to busy fighting the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause for religious holiday domination. I’m sure he would have the Tooth Fairy and his team of leprechauns look into it for him though.

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  70. Please change the name of your article to “Why I (a Christian, one of the crazy ones, not the normal ones) believe there should be no separation of church and state.

  71. This is clearly the most powerful, concise, intelligent and best presented argument against voting for B.O. if you are a believer. But, the problem still remains that there is a serious deception involved. People are deceived and will not hear and will not see the truth.

  72. There is NO way God is FOR Barack Obama when He is so AGAINST everything Obama stands for. People who believe so are deceived, wholly. That is not to say God is FOR John McCain, but there is certainly more grounds for that assumption than the latter. Obama is the scariest thing to happen to this country in a long, long time. God help us all, republicans and democrats alike, if he gets elected. McCain/Palin ’08!

  73. It bothers me….how can Obama call himself a Christian when he’s FOR abortion? Oh yeah, Democrats are now gonna start attacking me saying he isn’t PRO-abortion, he’s for “right-to-choose.” Ha ha, y’all really crack me up. I’d say why but I’m not gonna waste my time on something even my 5-year old niece could fathom.

    Thanks Mr. Brown for taking the time to write this. You’ve made some good points.

  74. Mr. Brown,
    Thank you !!! Please allow me to buy you lunch for articulating this issue in a truthful, undebatable manner. It is amazing to me how many Christians are willing to look past Mr. Obama’s beliefs and voting record in order to have a “Black” president in office. Don’t worry about the negative responses. It has been proven most cannot handle the truth when you challenge their spiritual priorities. May God help us all!!

  75. MilwaukeeMike, separation of church and state was created to protect the church from being controlled by the state! Read your history book. By the way the farther a country gets from God’s laws the more laws the government has to create. If our country had a true heaven sent revival the people would fear God like they did before and we would no longer be in so much trouble as a nation.

  76. I see Mr. Brown’s article really got to people. I AM an Obama supporter, but it’s not because he’s black (as you say). The man is bi-racial. But because he has African blood going through his veins has spooked many. I am voting for change. Like the previous commentors mentioned “only God can judge”. I really feel bad for the entire Obama family, because clearly people are planning a future assassination. The bitterness in the words typed above makes it so obvious. Get over it people!!!! A man who is not “white” has made it this far!! It has happened and it was inevitable!! Get over it!! let’s accept change and pray for better.

  77. No I definately cannot vote for Obama

    My Christian beliefs will not let me. I know that abortionis wrong and besides Obama has shown
    that he would rather keep his hands straight down when others are saluting the flag…I cannot vote for
    someone who is UnAmerican.

  78. I am not ashamed to say that Barak being Black doesn’t give me butterflies…that seeing his beautiful Black wife and daughters don’t make me smile. I have voted for 3 presidents and never had the opportunity to vote for a black one, so excuse me while I “dance a jig” for this moment in history.

    But make no mistake about it, he had to EARN my support, and he did!

    He earned it because his platform is that of a man that respects others. A man who has learned from people of different backrounds and ideologies. A man who feels there is more than one way to get things done and who is not afraid to listen to those whose views may not reflect his own.

    It is OK if you want to vote your faith. But does your faith tell you call your opponent terrorist and shout Kill Him at rallies. Does your faith tell you to choose a candidate who lies and does and says anything to get elected.

    And to the person who said Obama did not support BAIPA…please do your homework, there is already a law on the books. It was written again for political reasons and Obama was not wasting time with a re-write of the same law.

    Jeremiah Wright was his pastor for 20 years and this man has been on the front lines of the Civil Rights fight. Hell yes he has issues with America. This man remembers blacks having to fight for the basic right of riding on a city bus or sitting at a lunch counter. My grandfather sounds just like that. It seems that some of America’s past practices have left a bad taste in Rev. Wright’s mouth. REally, you can’t relate to how he feels just a little? Oh, your too Christian to worry about what happened to Blacks in the past. We should just Thank Jesus the laws were changed and forget about it all. Right? WRONG!! But, seriously, what does this have to do with Obama again? DO you think every sermon Wright preached was damning AMerica? No, if so, there would be more than those 2 or 3 30 second soundbites floating around.

    The conservatives did a good job of making Christians think they share the same ideals. All that I hear coming from McCain’s camp is negativity and division. They are calling people Anti-American and dangerous….please!
    But remember that Bush told you Christians that he was sent from God too….well, we see that was a lie. I hope the kool-aid goes down real easy.

  79. I had lunch with a very good black woman friend of mine today. I am white. I am voting for McCain and she for Obama. She is really religious. I let her read this post in the past, but she said it was ridiculous. I asked her today how she feels on abortion. She said she was not for it, but she thinks a woman should have the right to choose. I asked her about partial birth abortions. She said she had to read up on it. Then I asked her just for kicks, what if Obama came out and said he was Muslim and she said she’d still vote for him because she is not voting for him because he is Christian but because his policy is better and that she does not mix church and state.

    On the way back from lunch, I told her she would be happy on November 4th because Obama would win anyway. She said “thank you Jesus”… I wanted to scream.

    Fact is she has no idea anyway what is going on. She has already voted early, and couldn’t tell me who else she voted for in Gov. or Senate. She said she just picked and chose with whatever. She said she voted some republicans, some libertarians, and some democrats. She is clearly voting for Obama because he is black. She harbors a lot of anger towards white America. She just so happens to like white guys to date though.

    Personally, I don’t care if a person is voting for Obama as long as you can tell me why, without saying “change”. Obama almost had my vote too, but I was confused between he and McCain, so I had to look for some deeper issues to weigh my vote. Abortion was it, so now my vote goes to McCain.

  80. ELECTION 2008
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  81. Why so against Gay marriage? What’s so bad about people having equal rights and being happy?

  82. Republicans tpokmthe prayer out of schools. Republicans took in God We Trust off of the American coins & tried to take the same words off of the American dollars. How can you continue to vote for the Republicans that don’t believe in Jesus Christ or the God in which you all say you trust in? I agree lets all turn back to God & we will be better off. People are saying they are against abortions but did not have a problem with LYNCHING or Slavery or Castrations!Murder is Murder!!! Now you’ve just sold your souls to the devil for all that it is worth. A Bunch of Hypocrits!

  83. Dear Sam, you need a history lesson. Every place you have written ‘Republican’ insert ‘Democrat’ instead and you will be much closer to the historical truth.

  84. These arguments are solid, but there is a major whole here. He is trying to appeal to the moral standards of Christians by implying that Obama is too liberal a man, and that makes him immoral in the eyes of God. Does he honestly believe that one cannot be a Christian if they are liberal? Obama has publically confessed his faith in Christ and spent half his life in church. Who is he to judge where Obama stands before God? To me, his judgments are what is immoral, which makes him sound very hypocritical. He is basically claiming that God is happy with his decision not to vote for Obama, but unhappy with others who choice too. You see how sad that is? He is exalting his good works, which has become the downfall of Christianity today — faith is not based on works!

    Look, there is no way we can agree 100% with any presidential candidate. But saying that one is more moral then the other is a complete distortion of the truth. That’s saying that God rates sin, which we all know is not true. Being in sexual sin as a straight man is just as bad as being in sexual sin as a gay man. So instead of condemning others for choosing the candidate they believe is the right choice for them, he should applaud the fact that Christians of all backgrounds, all races, all ages, and all classes can have different opinions, choices, and thoughts but still stand under the same mighty God.

  85. You are awesome!!!

  86. I’m voting for Obama anyway.

    I hate when people mix God and politics together, especislly when it’s meant to be separated.

    Palin is no better. she wants to revoke Roe vs.Wade. Can’t have that. Sorry. Women’s rights are important to me. In Palin’s world I might as well send a memo to the Department of Health every time I’m on the rag, because I won’t be able to do anything with my body unless the goverment says so.

  87. Sashinka, I sense a bit of hyperbole here. You really ought to read about the Establishment Clause. The founders wanted to keep government out of the church and fully expected the church to do everything possible to influence the government.

    BTW, if a person is formed at conception, then abortion is not a religious issue; it is simply murder.

  88. I agree with Huntley Brown.

    I am a white man who has been a man of God since 1981 and have tried my best to be a follower of God’s word. For me, I could never vote for a man or woman who supports “abortion” especially when that person claims to be a Christian.

    Any God fearing person in this country who claims to be a Christian, whether they are black, white, Hispanic, Asian, male or female should take another look at God’s word. Exodus 20:3 (1st commandment – You shall have no other gods before me.) and Exodus 20:13 (6th commandment – You shall not murder).

    What needs to be explained here? Neither presidential candidate can save this great country only God can. Murder is an abomination to God.

    Yes, I am a white man who looks at the heart first. A president needs to be a man of character, integrity, honesty, strength, and a man of God. Sorry folks but Mr. Obama does not have any of these qualities.

    I would very much like to vote for a black man or woman to be president of this country but he or she must first past this test. When I look into the eyes of this man, I see evil. Anyone willing to allow babies to be “executed” in the womb is not worthy to be president.

    My prayer is for Christians of all races to test each presidential candidate to see if they pass God’s test. I don’t want an “eloquent” speaker, I want a man of God.

    If Mr. Obama becomes president, our country will be heading for darker days. God will hand us over to our enemies. I prefer to call out to God now for deliverance than later when it is much worse. And believe me, it will be much worse.

  89. This article demonstrates exactly what is wrong with the Christian right—and I say that as a Christian.

    “In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning, to name a few, wrong, economic concerns will soon not matter.”

    There are SO MANY MORE ISSUES AT STAKE than those few narrow social policy issues. The writer says so himself. But the Christian right tends to vote on only two: abortion and gay rights. That is a completely narrow and irresponsible way to approach politics.

    What about the environment? We’re killing the earth—God’s creation—with our irresponsible policies. We were created to be good stewards of the earth, and we’re failing. The Christian community doesn’t seem to care.

    What about the death penalty? The problem with Christian pro-lifers often miss is this illogical fallacy: it’s not okay to kill babies, but it is okay to kill inmates. How can you rectify the two?

    That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I’ll admit that our system of democracy is flawed. It only allows for two viable choices from which to choose in an election—Republican or Democrat. Neither are ideal. There are issues on both sides that I agree with and disagree with. The point is not looking narrowly at two or three issues and ignoring the rest. You have to look at the whole picture and decide who most closely aligns with what you think to be right according to the Bible. I think abortion is wrong, but I also think gun rights, the death penalty, and wrecking the environment are wrong.

    Guess which way I’ll be voting on November 4…

  90. While I agree that God made us stewards of the earth and we should protect it, both for our own benefit and to fulfill our obligations to the Lord, I would rather ‘kill’ the earth than 40 million babies.

  91. el.,

    Why would I have to guess as to who you are voting for? It should not be a guess. By your post, beats me who you are voting for.

    Murder is wrong.

    Homosexuality is wrong.

    Death Penalty is correct (the Bible is full of righteous killing).

    Gun rights or protecting yourself is correct. If you don’t do it, who will? Mr. Obama? I don’t think so.

    Destroying God’s creation is wrong but I don’t believe all global warming is man made. That limits God don’t you think?

    If Christians don’t take a stand now, God will turn His back on us as He did to the Israelites.

    If you think it is bad now, wait til we have a super democrat majority in congress with a left wing, anti-gun, anti-military, pro-abortion, anti-first amendment president in the White House.

    Americans – be careful for what you wish for because you might just get it.

  92. You are a bunch of idiots, argueing to argue. I am a white woman who raised three kids on my own..totally. I am voting for Obama, because he is liberal…Liberal is not a bad word…though Republicans have done a good job trying to make it so. To me, in practice, conservatism means taking care of yourself and to heck with the rest of ya…you can feel that perpetuated attitude in the arrogant responses here. To me liberal means caring about you and me, and them. Takes a little more wisdom, I think. Quit hidding behind your radical right wing evangelism to promote the crappy policies of the Repbulican Party…You do not have a corner on Christian Values, as you profess you do. Blacks, elderly, women, poor, and other minorites who vote Republican, need to remember that the Repbulicans have done NOTHING for them EVER, escept thaken your children to war. You need a reality check as to who’s who in your corner!

  93. Well Jean, I am a Conservative and have done more than a few things for Black, Hispanics, women, children and the poor. We give hundreds of dollars a month in support of the poor and our food pantry touches over 300 families a month.

    BTW, you need to get your facts straight about what political parties were in charge when wars started and what political parties fought against slavery.

    BTW #2 – name-calling is only barely tolerated on this blog.

  94. As others have said, singling out one sin as worse than others goes against biblical teaching. God hates all sin to the full extent.

    Neither party is perfect nor right with the Lord. You claim that God wouldn’t direct people to vote for different canidates, yet then you qualify *your* judgement of what is right in the eyes of the Lord with selective logic and rationality. There is only one place that validty of claims can come from, and that is The Holy Spirit.

    Perhaps instead of asking your friends if they can go to the Lord and say they will vote for abortion against His will, you should ask them if they are truely listening to the burden the Lord puts both on their heart and yours.

    You are human. He is God. You cannot in any sense claim to know his will from any divinings except what he reveals to you. How can you claim to know the future? Who will best carry out the Lord’s will? Are you a Prophet? Why then, self proclaimed prophet, would you speak on the authority of rationalization and logic rather than that of the Lord. Speaking the world’s will in the Lord’s name is *not* something many would dare undertake, for you can only desparately hope that the two align.

    I’m not endorsing either canidate, but the author and reader’s need to check themselves if they think they can know God’s will from the workings of their own minds. Think of the Lord’s priests, his teachers, who called for the death of the Messiah in the Lord’s name. How easy it is to lead one’s self or others down the wrong path.

    Please, pray for guidance, pray for eachother, and reconcile in love to do His will, not our idea of what His will is.

    May the Lord Jesus walk with you in your lives.

  95. I must say any time I think or read about the million plus babies being slaughtered every year here in the US, I cry! I support CHRIST AND MY VOTE, MY VOICE will be for the millions of God’s children that have been aborted! “I am your creator. You were in my care even before you were born.” Isaiah 44:2… God Bless America and God Bless You and Your Family Mr. Brown.

  96. Thank you for creating this website! I hope many will read the truths you have written about. God Bless you and your family!

  97. God bless you, Mr. Brown.

  98. Thank you Mr. Brown. If only people would read this and absorb it. God Bless us all.

  99. You Are An Idiot!

  100. Wow, some very intelligent and unintelligent people here. I echo the article and all who agree with it and then some.

  101. Machelle, your reply was awesome. It would be an honor to know you and call you a friend. I am sorry you went through what you did but God permitted it to bring you where you are now, which, is on the path of riteousness that leads to heaven.

    Jean, Sashinka, and the other posters that even in light of what Mr. Brown stated (by the way, it is all factual) will still vote for Obama, your eyes are open but you do not see! How can anyone be so callous as to vote for someone who wants to ensure that babies born alive as the result of botched abortions die?! I,too, took the easy road before saying I was against abortion, but it should be up to the woman to decide for herself. I knew I was wrong in that view but another issue that took presidence. It is funny that the other issue that took the forefront of my political psyche is no longer a dominant force in my mindset now. It is amazing how things change once one’s eyes are opened to the truth. By no means am I saying I am better than you Jean, Sashinka etc., bu rather, God has bestowed Grace on me via the Holy Spirit to allow me to see clearly and choose the correct path. Jean, Sashinka and the other posters on here who share you views keep mentioning how Christians judge others and that is not acceptable as only God has the right to judge. Someone earlier has stated it much more eloquently than me but I will make an attempt at clarifying the “judging” concept. If I tell you not to get an abortion because it is wrong, or if I tell you not to have premarital sex because it is wrong, I AM NOT JUDGING YOU!!!! If I see you are doing something wrong and do not say anything I am risking my salvation by not presernting the truth of God’s teachings to you. Once I reveal the truth to you, it is up to you to see it or not. I can tell you that I personally do not judge anyone for any sinful behavior as I am just as much a sinner as anyone else. It is vital though, as a child of God, to share God’s truth with everyone in an effort to do God’s will here on earth. I do not pretend to know many bible scriptures word for word but one verse from the New Testament that lets people know if they are on the right path is: “If the world hates me, it will hate you also. For I am not of this world and I have chosen you out of this world, therefor, the world hates what is not its own”. Basically, if people react to what you say with animosity and contempt, you know you are doing God’s work! Go McCain/Palin!!!!!!!!!

  102. To Jean,
    Being conservative does NOT mean taking care of self and the heck with the rest of ya. I have no problem giving to charity and helping someone out that is down on their luck. What I have issue with is Nobama taking my money and HIM deciding who gets it. I personally think I am a better judge of who I should help with MY hard earned dollars. IN addition, I cannot turn a blind eye to the many associations with so many questionable people over the last 20 years. If he were an ordinary citizen he would never qualify for any kind of security clearance. As for all of you in here that denigrate the Christian beliefs, I will just say that Satan has won with you. He is the father of all lies and will blind those that are not strong in their faith. I agree that McCain is not perfect and has fallen in his faith at times, but he more closely represents my ideologies and Gods word. As for the person that thinks gun rights are wrong, you sir dont have that say. I just did an english paper on the second amendment and there can be no misunderstanding of our founding fathers intent. It was and is meant for the individual right. Not only for defense of country from foreign invaders but for self defense. It was also meant for the defense of our personal liberties in the unfortunate event of our government becoming tyrannical and attempting to enslave its citizens. Its all there if anyone would take the time to read and truly open their mind. I have already voted and I voted the only way my heart, mind and soul would allow. McCain/Palin….I pray that God sees fit to allow us this grace.

  103. Now, I will take the time to thank Mr Huntley Brown for his eloquence and intelligent argument as to why he has chosen to cast his vote for McCain and Palin. I too do not base my beliefs and opinions on skin color. I am white but at least half if not more of my closest friends are not white. They are Black, Asian, Indian and Native American. What defines them is their character. They are all well grounded Christian men and women. These are the people I choose to associate with. As a child my mother always told me that you are judged by the company you keep. This could not be more true than with Senator Obama. If we take a look at his associations over the last 20 years as well as his associations during his college years that continue today we can come to no other conclusion than to wonder about his judgement and character. This does not even include his ideologies which everyone here seems to be arguing over whether he is Christian or not. I will admit he is a smooth talker and says all the right things to make people feel all warm and fuzzy. Even during the last debate I have to admit that he said many great things. If we look at his walk over his lifetime though it is a contradiction. Yes, we all want change, we need new leadership, but at what cost? How many stories do you here about con men taking advantage of peoples desires? He is a con man. A very good con man but a con man nonetheless. He talks a great line but has nothing in his past to back up his promises.

    Thank you again Mr. Huntley Brown. Well said. I too will pray for Senator Obama if he is in fact elected.

  104. I just have one more thing to add. FD, I truly enjoyed your analogy of “Choice”. It is not to much of a stretch to believe that a society that will kill unborn children because they are an inconvenience would take it another step and kill the elderly for the same reason. It is truly a slippery slope.

  105. There is a reason for seperation of church and state. I do believe in a higher being, but I live with the choices that are given to me. I have not chosen a candidate yet but i will make my dicision on the issues that effect my nation not my religion. I do not favor either candidate, but I will make a decision for myself not for my church.

  106. God is love. What happened to compassion, care for the sick, welfare for the poor. These are the traits that Jesus embodied. I always ask republicans one question that really bothers me about the belief system of their party. How can a party or party member be anti- abortion and pro war at the same time? I am a veteran who served honorably for four years in the marine corps. I was attached to a recon unit (marine special forces) for one mission and had the opportunity to talk to career infantryman for the first time. I ate lunch one day with a alcoholic seargant , and I asked him what made him drink everyday. His answer was to drink away the pain. What pain? I asked. He told me that one day on patrol a iraqi girl about 10 years old rode by on a bicycle and a threw a bottle of poisonous snakes at the unit. The bottle busted and the snakes proceded to bite a nearby soldier killing him within minutes. The entire unit chased this 10 year old girl on foot and unloaded on her ripping her literally in half with gunfire. After hearing this story I decided that I was not put on this earth to do that to any other human being no matter the age, race ,political, or religous belief. War is ungodly!!!!!!!!!!!!! So those who support a war are ungodly!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not vote for a party or a candidate who is hypicritical. That is why I can never vote for the republican party. Obama has compassion and walks in the footsteps of jesus. Mccain is the ungodly candidate who thinks that murdering babies is wrong , but adults who don’t quite agree with our religuos or cultural beliefs can be murdered by the thousands. I know people are going to say what about 911? You should pray for the terrorist, in hopes that one day they give their life up to christ and acknowledge him as our savior. I hope republicans see the error of their ways and do the same.

  107. why would black people vote for him just cus he is black? it’s sad, but true. good to see not everyone is like that

  108. Thank you for your testimony and wisdom!

    If Obama gets elected, he is going to destroy the progress made for civil rights in the past 40 years.

    I think many African-Americans will regret an Obama presidency.

    Please remember that the United States was founded by conservatism. Righteousness exalteth a nation – not intellectualism. To change what has made us great is foolish. The Bible says “meddle not with them that are given to change”.

    We need God back in our country. Voting for the most liberal politician in the Senate is not going in the right direction.

  109. I just wanted to state that from a soldiers perspective your article hear is rather insightful. I have run into a few African Americans on both sides of the coin. Most of my African American friends in the military said, “We are tired of having a white man in charge. Its time to have a brother in charge to see what he can do.” I am all for a black person in charge. I was disappointed when Condoleeza Rice wasn’t chosen. She is brilliant and very values oriented. As a white male in the military I have enjoyed exceptional leadership under many black leaders. Obama unfortunately wants black people to become reliant on the Government. He will set them back many years in terms of becoming independent.

    Respectfully,
    SGT D

    http://www.demshateamerica.com

  110. Excellent summary of why no one should vote for Obama!

    The point about racism is very important. If McCain had attended a white church that was as racist as Obama’s he’d of had to pull out of the primaries. Racism is racism regardless of which side it comes from.

    Vote for freedom. Vote for McCain-Palin.

  111. Ignorance is truly bliss.

  112. This article sparked an email conversation with a good friend of mine, who is a thoughtful democrat. In conjunction with obama’s support of Roe Vr Wade, I responded to his comments on aborting for the safety of the mother and rape as follows:

    Hi Dexter, I am replying to only you on this message, (other people were on the original email), because I know I can get right to the point with you without worrying about stepping on feelings. As usual, you show a very thoughtful background in your reasoning process, and I admire that quality that is in your heart. I would like for you to also add these questions and comments to your thoughts on this issue:

    1. Did not the laws before RoevWade allow a mother and her doctor to take appropriate action to save the mother in the case of a life threatening medical complication?
    2. How many babies have been aborted for reasons other than #1 since RoevWade?

    Picture Jesus in the room and standing over the mother and doctor during an abortion procedure.
    Matthew 25:45
    “He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
    Matthew 25:40
    “The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

    Since RoevWade it is my view that 99.9999999999% of abortions are cold blooded murders. I believe the mothers, fathers, doctors and lawmakers will have to account for this with God.

    It is also my belief that the prevailing secular thinking of our society has tried to make the reasoning above MUTE and one of RELIGIOUS FANATICISM. I also STRONGLY believe that the Evil One is at work in our world. One other thought: A Christian pregnant woman that has been raped or has a life threatening medical complication WILL pray to God for the LIFE she carries. Unfortunately, many women today, because largely for the existance of RoevWade, have a total disregard for the God’S creation inside of them.

    Peace and Love
    Bob

  113. This is a courageous and thoughtfully written article. The replies that reference separation of church and state are naive. All leaders govern from their own value system whether they call it religion or not.
    Sen. Obama’s values are reflected by the company he’s kept and his voting record. Listening to his speeches on CSpan over the last few years and his responses in interviews back up this article completely.

    McCain – Palin 08

  114. Sir,

    I found your letter interesting to say the least. I will not spend my time re-hashing what others have already said about Obama’s policies, or facts of his life. Instead, I would like to contest one statement within your letter. You stated that we should follow Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s words:”Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.”

    I wil never disagree with this statement because it holds relevance today, just as it always has. However, I can’t ignore something that you seem to be throughout your letter. A person’s character is not defined by their religious persuasion. While a person’s relgion will obviously affect the person greatly, it does not define them, and to try to define someone by whether or not God might agree with them, is to misunderstand the doctor’s words, the same man that you would rightfully put so much faith into.

    A person’s character is composed of what are regarded as positive and negative attributes for the benefit of themselves and mankind. It would be horribly ignorant of me to deny that nearly all of Christ’s teachings were for the benefit of the world, but we must not look only to those areas, for the result is exclusion of those who may practice similiar traditions, but disagree about what we call God. Jesus’ greatest teaching, and the eleventh commandment that many forget, is “love others, as thou would love thine self.” So, if you choose to base your idea of someone’s character off of christianity, maybe we should look at the eleven commandments, and decide who would better follow God’s teachings in those respects, rather than mix and match Bible verses that will allow you to vote for which ever party you would normally vote for.

    I must say, this entire essay is a non-unique argument. Simply based on the fact, that minorities will usually vote democratic, and you, as a minority are not. Thus, the essay could have been written at anytime, with the name of the candidate changed, and you would have made the same arguments.

    This is in no way an attempt to skew your vote. The beauty of a democracy is that everyone contains their own autonomy, and is free to exercise their liberty however they see fit. This is merely an attempt to make sure we notice exactly how we define someone’s characters. For once we exclude people based on the fact that their religious beliefs are not congruent with ours, and thus characterize them as having bad views, we can not hope to live in the world of morals and virtue. It is important to notice that nearly every great tyrant wished to rid their society of social ills in order to create he Utopia, it just so happened that those social ills were contained within the thought processes of those deemed with “bad character.” With this I am speaking primarily of: the genocide of 450 million American Indians, the conquest of millions of South American Indians, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, the continued genocide of North American Indians, the residential school system forced upon those same North American Indians, and the ongoing genocide of Sudanese, Palestinians and all those not worthy of face time on the O’Reilly Factor.

    Unless we reject the notion that all those who do not agree with us, are immoral and thus have a bad character, we can not hope to escape this violence. Once again, this is not a call to change your voting status, obviously both candidates have positive and negative features tha must be decided by each individual, this is merely a call to attention of the exclusionary nature of your words.

    Your words have more power than you think, think when you use them.

    Sincerely,

    Michael.

  115. And your point is……………………………

  116. My point is largely that unless we change our discourse to a more inclusive form, we can not escape genocide and violence, we make it inevitable. That is my point. Had you read that may have been apparent to you.

    Also, an elipsis is composed of three periods.

  117. Great Job on opening peoples eyes! God Bless you and your family.. Shirl

  118. What did you discover about how Obama would support or not support Israel?

  119. Then who are we to vote for? I hear you saying not to vote for Obama. I think I agree. But, who ARE you voting for? Do you believe that Senator McCain is not in contradictions with Jesus’ teaching? Don’t you feel he is insincere in his profession of faith? Obama almost sounds more convincing in his profession. I would be interested in hearing what you have decided TO vote in addition to your declaration of intent NOT to vote for Senator Obama. Thanks..

  120. Humility. Prayer.

    No arguing.
    Following only Christ Jesus.
    Seek and we will find.

    Perhaps whoever is elected will be used to humble God’s people to their knees. Maybe we will finally realize that we cannot change our country, but that only God can. Maybe then we will be kind. To everyone.

    Maybe then His love will prevail and the world will see Him instead of us.

    Lord I pray this will be so. In Jesus name.

  121. Wow!! God Bless you for your boldness! it is a very sad thing when people bring their prejudice into politics and voting for skin color is one of them. There is a real hate against Christians but i never thought that this hate against rich, gun carrying whites was so bad even being preached in churches. I know as an Italian with many friends of different nationalities this hurts. I truly love all my friends, I thought, I hope none of them think this about me!!
    Thank you for your writings. They helped!!
    Love YA!!
    Dominic
    http://domusa-savetheworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/i-saw-old-glory-being-lowered-for-last.html

  122. Please go to – http://www.factcheck.org/
    and check out what Billy Graham’s article is about that mirrors this one by Dr. Huntley and what fact check states ~ which btw is a very reputable site.

  123. The fundamental question is this: Who in the hell cares what a bible-thumping misdirected black man thinks about the candidacy of Obama. He is free not to vote for him. So what? There are millions who won’t vote for him for similar and a myriad other reasons. That is the touchstone of the democratic process. Too bad for Mr. Brown, that millions of others will vote for Obama for the same reasons he won’t and then some.

    Any person as one-dimensional as Mr. Brown, whose life choices are solely dictated by his faith and nothing else is not worthy of an audience. It is best to keep his banal and misguided opinions to himself and his immediate family.

  124. I loved what you said about when the Lord has brought someone with Obama’s beliefs to lead a nation it means judgment. I fear that America is finally going to be judged for our sinful, God-hating society. I just pray he will come for his bride before then!

  125. So…you need to vote with what your book says your god says, right? Except your god is also this Jesus person, and he said to help the poor (give them the shirt off your back) and not to store up treasure upon the earth. Seems pretty anti-capitalist…in fact the whole notion of actual, Biblical Christianity is about as non-conservative as it comes. To follow Jesus meant to give up everything, take up his cross, and follow him in his acts of kindness, sacrifice, healing, and care. Where exactly in there does he talk about any form of political platform that resembles conservatism or modern right-wing politics?

    As to the rest of your comments, well, do as your beliefs dictate, even if they seem a little inconsistent. It seems that if you really wanted to vote with your beliefs you would not vote at all, because no matter what you are supporting liars and manipulators who will use you, your money, and your children to pursue their own agendas all over the world.

    Be honest with yourself and don’t pretend the choice between a Big Mac and a Whopper is a meaningful one. They are both poison masquerading as sustenance and the only reason you care about either one is marketing.

    So…have fun with that whole basing your politics on religion thing. I’m sure it will work out really well for you.

  126. I will be voting for McCain based on the abortion issue. Let’s not think that he is ‘super-spiritual’ gift from God however.

  127. Superfly,

    I dare say your life choices are dictated by your faith (beliefs) as are Mr. Brown’s, mine, and everyone else who’s taken the time to comment on this post.

    If your choices are not based on your beliefs, what in the world are they based on? Following your logic, no one, including you, who makes any decision based on what he believes, deserves an audience. Which would also mean that you should keep your banal and misguided opinions to yourself.

    Of course, I do not believe that you or Mr. Brown or anyone else here should be so condescendingly dismissed.

  128. Hi Im Tiffany Banks and Im a freshman in college. I was shocked to see this email because I was talking to my mom about this the other day. I must say I agree with Huntley Brown. I cant speak for everyone but GOD HAS TAKEN CARE OF ME IN EVERY SITUATION. People clearly need to look FOR GOD when things dont look so bright. Obama is a man and like all men he WILL FALL SHORT. so dont be so dependent upon him. As a black female I am more than happy to see a black man have the opportunity to be president. But like I said he isnt GOD so lets not expect miracles..I have to vote according to the word of GOD.Because Its like this in the world….your either for the WORD or your not….I would hate to see myself on judgement day looking God in the face and saying I voted based on the short coming of the economy and etc… because that can only mean I didnt trust him to make sure my needs are met. VOTE ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD AND I PROMISE U WILL BE BLESSED!!!!!!!!

  129. I have read this man’s thoughts and I respect what he says. I believe that you judge a man by his character, as well as what he does. Abortion is murder, according to God, and we believe what God says. I have agonized over each candidate’s stand on the issues and I have watched each one closely.

    It seems to me that if God knows that a woman will choose to abort her baby, then why does He give her that blessing? I understand how we should feel about abortion, yet, I also understand that it is a personal issue. We as Christians must do more prayer because even if the law prohibits abortions, are we all willing to take in the unwanted children? Or will we build new organizations to house them and care for them?

    What kind of evils would be borne, if we force a woman to carry an unwanted child? If she doesn’t have faith in God, what does she do? What if she is bent on getting rid of her baby, regardless of what the law allows? What if she commits suicide because she sees no other alternative? If God gives her the baby (not you, not me) then isn’t she the only one who is accountable to Him?

    The Law of God understands that life begins at conception, but the Law of the land does not recognize that concept. It is implied understanding. There is a reason that God allowed that. This is an issue where we must look to the Spirit for understanding because it entails deeper levels of understanding and wisdom. Some, we might not be ready for.

    I think that It’s wrong to make anyone do anything. Even our salvation is of choice. God gives us the choice between life and death. Notice, he doesn’t force feed us in anything. We have no right to force someone to choose our way of life. Unbelievers are not subject to the Law of Life. How can we clean fish before we catch them?

    If there is liberty in Christ, then why do we force the issues onto non-believers? I believe that it’s the heart of the mother who is contemplating the abortion, that’s the issue, not the law. The law is not God. Republicans do not want big government, so isn’t this government imposing itself upon someone’s personal decisions? Don’t we have enough faith to pray and see the move of God upon our nation? “If my people who are called by My name will humble themselves and PRAY…”

    If abortion is wrong, isn’t fighting an unwarranted war wrong, as well? Don’t kid yourselves, this war is about nothing more than Big Oil. The Iraqis do not want the US to remain long on their soil. Isn’t their Our vets are involved in wars that haven’t accomplished it’s true intended mission. They are crying out to be relieved of this war, but Bush and McCain are not listening.

    If you all are truthful, then why doesn’t anyone speak about the crucial inconsistencies of McCain and Palin’s character? I do not believe that God is pleased with the tactics in this election, especially concerning those who have seemed to resort to public humiliation for lies and evil incitements. I am no fool and neither are any of you. The Bible says that “anger rests in the bosom of fools”. I do not need to go into greater details because you all get it. I’m not following a fool.

  130. Sophia,

    You said, “I think it’s wrong to make anyone do anything” and that “We have no right to force someone to choose our way of life.” Really?

    That would mean it’s wrong to stop people from breaking into houses and raping women, if that’s what they really want to do. That would mean it’s wrong to force someone to obey traffic laws, even though they really want to drive 90 miles per hour under the influence of alcohol.

    Those actions that we forbid people to do everyday (even though there are people who really want to do them and who resent our interference) pale in comparison to the wholesale slaughter of unborn children.

  131. I have read some of these comments, and would only like to put a little word in.
    I am to young to vote, but my high school government class has been filled with discussion about the upcoming election.

    As a Christian, I am looking more on the moral views of the candidates, not what they look like or their political party.

    I respect all four of the candidates. Personally, it would be daunting to even think of running for such a high position. I am also praying for all of them, and hope for the best.

    If I was voting, I could not, with a good mind, vote for a man who supports abortion. Nor one who fights for the death penalty. Or someone who is for guns, or wants to get condoms out to prevent AIDS.
    While all of that describes both candidates, it makes it very hard for me to form my own opinions. So, what would a Christian do with such a predicament?

    Pray.

    Only God can tell you on who He thinks you should vote for. yet I honestly do not know which one He wants to win.

    As for what some of you are writing about the author of this article, the writers who are posting comments, and about the candidates, I am disappointed. If we follow Christ, we must love these people, and while we can point out their sins, I believe we should do so lovingly. Not in a harsh, ‘I’m-right-you’re-wrong’ approach.
    After all, what would Jesus do?

    Mr. Brown, I respect you for writing this article, and found it enlightening.

    God bless.

  132. I fear that Obama will bring in a one wolrd order quite rapidly with all of the lies of Satan. Homosexual civil rights, abortion on demand, parental rights removed, wealth redistributed, USA a universal welfare state, a domestic force for what did he say? It sounds like a force similar to Hitler’s that helped him secure power, very scarely. He said we shouldn’t rely on the military any more. Why? What plans has he of it? I thought he was going to bring them home! I will vote right to life since innocent life must be protected, while acknowledging the need for peace. I also am leary of McCain, but Alan Keys, unfortunately hasn’t a chance.

    May God enlighten us, Ted

  133. All I have to say is Pray. I can not and did not choose eather of these men to be our next president. I dont know what the answer is but I beleave in the power of prayer. Look to God for answers and you will recieve.

  134. Abortion is an issue that only God can heal. I’d like to say that I do not condone abortion. I’m just making the point that we as Christians DO NOT have the right or authority to push ANYONE to do anything. We are called to pray. We are dealing with the hearts of (wo)men. Reading the posts on this discussion, makes me understand why the world won’t even consider what we say. Where is the compassion? Where is the faith? It is crucial that we understand that this election was still in God’s hand, regardless of how it turned out. Instead of embracing gloom and fear, we should expect God to reveal His plan for us. Hateful preaching hurts, not only those who hear, but those who preach it. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE HEARTS OF MAN.

    Sin is sin and there is much sin in the Church. We are still very much divided and segregated. The sin of division rests within the hearts of Christians. God hates that! I truly believe that the Lord is doing a great work! I’m excited! My Sisters and Brothers, unless the Church is truly unified, the power of God is limited. We’ve been praying for a move of God that will shake the world, but we have forgotten that there first must be a cleansing and purifying of His Church. That is from where the Power of God will flow. We will NEVER be able to get the speck out of the world’s eye, if we have a plank in ours. Selah.

    Forgive me if I have offended anyone.

  135. I want to start out by saying that I respect the author’s and everyone’s beliefs on this matter as we are all entitled. But every time I hear someone talk about what God would and would not back it makes me cringe especially comming from those that claim to be Christian. You are speaking for yourself not God, you follow God’s path and strive to be as close to him as possible but that is it.

    As far as this article is concerned, in my oppinion the author took one aspect of Obama’s campaign and made it the basis for the man’s moral fiber. As all of us live in glass houses, we should all put our stones down and deal things as they are.

    As much as want to be that this government or any others for that matter follows God, I would be a fool to believe so and would be forgetting that paradise for God’s people does not lie on Earth it lie with the maker. And when it comes down to it, it is our chioces that get us there.

    There is a reason that there is a separation between church and state… In my oppinion, if you do something because there is a law in place instead of acting out of what you believe to be right and wrong, then you are not acting based on choice. For years, there have been people who choose to have abortions whether the law supported them or not. And they will continue to do so. Pro-life vs. pro-choice is not about whether it is okay to kill a fetus/baby because you have to answer to God for that. It is about whether a person has the right to tell you that you can’t do it. I am pro-choice, but I do not think abortion is the way to go. I also know, that I have no more right to push my views on them than they on me.

    A Christian knows to follow God’s path, and to minister to those willing to lend their ear. But also not to judge or believe themselves better than anyone else. Don’t believe me? Re-read the Prodical Son and ask yourself who was Jesus talking to? The sinners that he dined with or those who thought they were above them?

    Obama’s campaign and victory is more about a nation coming together to show that it can unite and work together. Obama didn’t one point on race nor did he use it as a tool for victory. For the black community, his victory illustrates that we can truly achieve anything that we put our minds to. We can say it to our children AND FINALLY MEAN IT!!! All the excuses of being held back and having an inability to achieve when we know that we are not really putting our best foot forward is gone. It is about a country that was founded on justice and equality for all except the black men & women that built this nation on our backs finally being able to see that American Dream. Black or not, Christian or not, that IS worth voting for Barack.

    This election is not about religious faith and unfortunately, none will ever be.

  136. I will honor & pray for President Obama because my bible teaches me to do that. However, I am afraid for my country. I’m afraid for the future of our children. A socialistic government is where we’re headed with Obama. GOD HELP US!

    p.s. if you go to Sir Yohan’s ( the last blogger) it will explain where he’s coming from……. it says it all by the photos that come up. geeslouise!

  137. What breaks my heart here is that I don’t believe this is Obama’s stance on this issue… I take that back… I believe it’s an Obama’s stance…. just not Barack! I think Michelle Obama has been behind this issue the whole way, and how? She is a mother to two very beautiful girls? Why would she think this is okay?

    Now that he’s president though… we have to hope for the best, and just think good thoughts that things will turn out the way he promised they would!

  138. My sentiments exactly… wonderful message. We need to get the stars out of our eyes so that we can see things clearly for what they are.

  139. I only agree with about half of his article! I totally agree with the fact that people should not of voted simply because Obama was a black American but what his policies and voting record showed. I understand that he is a Christain first and that is how he identifies and I applaud him on that

    Angie

  140. The comments I am most troubled by deal with abortion. Typically the attitude is that abortion is wrong but we cannot tell someone else what to do and therefore must keep it legal.

    Why don’t we do the same thing with theft? After all, they will answer to God. What about murder? rape? Who are we to tell someone else they cannot do that?

    Every law we have is based on common morality and protection of those principles. It is a total cop-out, IMO, to take the attitude shown by many on abortion.

    PS

    I am going to leave the comments open on this thread even though the post is very old. Everyone is free to express their views as long as they are kind.

  141. I am nor black or white. In fact I’m asian. Before I tell you my views, let me share to you why Obama had been a phonomenon for the asian community.

    As the world knows, America is the most powerful country, both figuratively and literally. There maybe other countries with riches assests, economies, lower underemplyment rate and such, but if you ask any person on earth about the highest country on the planet, the answer maybe America (exception to the rule are Chinese, they have very strong national pride, trust me, they are just neighbors to the Philippines but they seem closer to the western folks than to us).

    Anyway, the asian community have seen America rise and fall. Then here comes obama.

    For us, he is a symbol, a cultural icon (the same thing to most americans)
    >>he represents cultural equality
    >>he represents youth aspirations
    >>he represents hope
    >>he represents the power of dreams

    My opinion:
    But the thing is, he is just a single person. And so, he have his own personal views and opinions just like all of us. The misconception is that he is looked as someone that should always do the right things and help america out of the recession. See, wright and wrong varies. It depends to a lot of reasonings. and if he believes those things, can we blame him if he doesn’t believe what we believe?

    He maybe the head of all, but he’s still one. America have voted him to lead the country. The fact still remains that he will lead using what he believes is right. My point- the preseident of the United States of America is the same individual person just like all of us.

  142. Just asking, why is someone Christian first, black second? Can’t one be just Christian and black at the same time? Without the priority or hierarchy?

  143. One would have to be a Christian to understand why Huntley Brown said he is a Christian first. I too am a Christian first, and a white man or caucasian secondly. To God it doesn’t matter what race, or color we are. What does matter is our relationship to Him/God–have we accepted His gracious gift of salvation in exchange for our sinful life. Brown points out or alludes to the hierarchy that mankind has made. And he is making a statement that most people assume that all black people will vote or have voted for Obama. He logically outlined why he could not vote for THE MAN OBAMA. Some people however, do not get it. Perhaps many do not.

  144. we all share a common black ancestor I’m as black as any of you or as female as any of you I am a human first and foremost and I want to marry my partner that happens to be of the same sex and it is wrong to leave that to popular vote just like if you left interracial marriage vote to the people in the 60′s it wouldn’t have passed. you can’t give someone rights and then take them away and justify it

  145. I predict this can come out better when compared with any are predicting. We don’t want to jinx it when you’re overly optimistic and the media prefer to lower our expectations to be able to suppress the vote.

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